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June 13, 1998
Saturday
Breakout Sessions
- Dealing with resistance; we know that we will lose tools; how do we encourage diversity in tools and in cropping systems?
- How do we incorporate cultural practices knowing there is resistance? How do we incorporate farm by farm decision making (outreach programs by users, extension)?
Group Distribution:
| Group 1 |
Group 2 |
Group 3 |
Glenn Williams, Moderator |
Lois Levitan, Moderator |
John Vickery, Moderator |
| Mary Swanson |
Erich Dickler |
Meriel Watts |
| Joost Reus |
Joe Bagdon |
Graham Thwaite |
| Charles Benbrook |
Volkmar Gutsche |
Hayo van der Werf |
| Eric Hesketh |
Jim Lazorchack |
Karen Hamernick |
| Larry Burns |
John Redden |
Doug Urban |
| Jeff Dlott |
Larry Elworth |
Mike Gray |
| Harold Coble |
Don Wauchope |
Scott Swinton |
| Sarah Lynch |
Mollie Williams |
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Group 1. Glenn Williams - Moderator
- Need to think about simplification regarding measurement tools.
- The more diverse the ecosystem becomes, the less chance there is for resistance.
- Use on regular basis - sustainable with diverse systems.
- EPA: maybe ask about different possible tools, rank in terms of tools leading to data base, can then take pesticide use and show that a particular system generates more resistance with consistent pesticide use.
- Next Step: management of the system that is preventative in nature to other management and cropping systems.
- Challenge farmers and farm decision makers to think about diversity of tactics to manage resistance. Use a Diversity Index for use for farmers and specialists.
- Need to define Diversity: Diversity has a temporal element, a waiting element and a spatial element (We should use resilience rather than resistance).
- Bio-based systems - need redundancy and need to incorporate control mechanisms which are different from chemical control, e.g. spraying pesticide and the particular pest is basically gone.
- Need to be proactive; we cannot wait until the system fails.
- Diversity Index - development and measurement are key functions. (example was given by Eric Hesketh: it is like financial management which entails portfolio diversification to avoid losing money).
- Use summary statistics to evaluate diversity. The hypothesis is such that when the diversity index decreases, problems are emerging. This leads to the task of evaluating the methods in order to attain efficiency in the system.
- Points out where vulnerability of the system is present.
- Need the same strategies across the board (weeds, diseases, pests).
- The problem becomes how to evaluate systems in terms of environmental impact? Need to attach weights which are essentially points for preventative practices. It is a relative rating of diversity.
- Apply in principle Chuck Benbrook's IPM Continuum.
- A generic pesticide on one side of the continuum and farm practices on the other side of the continuum with expert judgement in terms of reliance on pesticides, experts come up with rating system. Would include variable such like those used in USLE but would also include temporal variables.
Challenge: Relate Monitoring and Thresholds =>
- First threshold: indicates need to tweak the management system.
- Second threshold: indicates management system failed.
both items become part of resistance.
Question: How do you know the difference between 1.) and 2.)?
Answer: Field monitoring; system is more robust if extensive monitoring is in place.
- Prevention (cultural, mechanical, and sanitary methods, introduction of beneficial)
- Avoidance (crop rotation)
- Monitoring
- Suppression
0-~ tactics under each item
Example: Corn
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Insects |
Weeds |
Diseases |
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| Avoidance |
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| Monitoring |
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| Suppression |
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Score Card
WHY RESILIENCE INDEX???
Can measure over time
Identify potential and real problems
- the more crop and management diversity tactics, the more points are assigned
- Strategies have to be agreed upon
- Regions, environments, etc.
- Develop theoretical diversity index, i.e. different index for each crop.
- Measure and monitor over time
Recommendations:
- Operationalize PAMS diversity index - a measure of IPM resilience.
- Apply in corn and soybeans, pilot projects to field test PAMS. - Can test retroactively against corn rootworm problem.
Group 2. Lois Levitan - Moderator
Group Discussion & Breakout Session following Mike Gray's Talk:
Predicting the Development of a Pest's Resistance to Control Measures
Notes & concepts as organized by Lois Levitan
Challenge/Questions:
How can factors other than pesticide toxicity and exposure
(application factors + fate and transport) be incorporated into
IPM risk indicators/assessment systems?
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I.e., How can an assessment capture the environmental
impacts
of such factors as a pest's potential to develop resistance to
a control method (whether control is from a pesticide or a
cultural practice)?
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IPM is dealing with pest resistance in an atmosphere where
practitioners are losing pest control tools. How can this
factor (potential for development of resistance) be
conceptually integrated into IPM assessment systems?
(Either as a stand-alone indicator or integrated into
measurement systems designed primarily to register relative
toxic risk of pesticides.)
Since resistance itself might be considered a feedback
to the IPM system, rather than an impact, in and of itself,
When (for what types of indicators/assessment systems)
is it appropriate to include such a measure?
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I.e., If the question is to assess trends in toxic
exposure, it may not be relevant.
However, if the question is to assess best practices
or to determine resilience of an IPM system, then an assessment that only considers toxic risk and not resistance potential (or other impacts of cultural practices) may give misleading results.
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Approach:
Create an index to predict resistance potential of a pest,
as a function of selection pressure. The indicator is roughly
based on the diversity of practices used to control the pest.
It should not be based simply on the number of options
available to control a given pest, but should also
consider:
- the intensity of adoption of a specific control practice (borrow from ecological measures of species richness)-one or more 'intensity' coefficients may be used to capture spatial diversity, temporal diversity, and numerical diversity.
- duration of use of a given practice. The thinking behind this is that if a practice is used continuously over time, its efficacy is likely to decrease over time
- the complexity of the resistance: how many different genes come into play in the development of the resistance. Thought: cultural practices may call more genes into play than do chemical practices
- relate the practice to some measure of cost to pest control manager (i.e., farmer, but also others) and its efficacy in controlling the pest.
[Lois Note: Are these factors relevant only an indicators of likelihood of adoption, or do they play another role as well? If they are an indicator of the likelihood of adoption, perhaps incorporate via a weighting factor for efficacy, or by a composite weight reflecting the several factors influencing adoption-including efficacy at controlling pest, cost, off-target negative impacts, hassle (which may include labor time, knowledge required), etc.?]
Alternative practices to be considered include the different pesticides available, different pesticides as counted by having different modes of action, biological and cultural controls, etc.
[Lois Note: If the indicator is to be used to assess the fragility of an IPM system (i.e.-the likelihood of resistance buildup), then the key issue may be the diversity of pest control practices that are used. e.g., in the corn-soy system described by MG, the practices were seemingly either (1) constant corn, using pesticides to control corn rootworm-which was not considered an IPM system, or (2) the corn-soy rotation, with no pesticides used to control the rootworm-which was recommended as an IPM practice.
If, however, the indicator is to be used to assess research priorities in IPM, or to assess success of IPM research programs, then perhaps the key may be the diversity of pest control practices that are available. Here then the next step may be assessing barriers to adoption of available IPM methods that are not being used.]
Objective of the Indicator:
To determine a diversity threshold, below which resistance potential is low. i.e., how high/low a score do you need before resistance takes infinity to develop?
Possible Structure of the Indicator:
Sum of Fi,
where F= the fraction of decrease of a pest within a regional
cropping (or management) system and i = a given 'resistance
avoidance' factor or pest control practice.
Question: How many i's are significant?
Note: Volkmar Gutsche brought a handout for an indicator which includes some of the same criteria and factors discussed here. See Burth et al. "Proposal for an indicator to measure the adoption of IPM in a farm (arable crops)."
Issues:
Does diversity of pest control practices of necessity cost more?
How much diversity is good, and how does diversity relate to predator/parasite population?
Approach can be applied to farm decision-making as well as policy. [Lois Note: but with perhaps different twist-as noted above]
Because good management strategies, esp. those designed to decrease resistance potential, often involve a multi-year time horizon, the indicator must also consider pest control practices over multiple years. (Appropriate number of years is probably the number for the full rotation of practices.)
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For example, in order to reduce resistance potential, pest control managers may periodically use a more toxic pesticide in rotation with pesticides less toxic to non-target organisms (NTOs).
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Notes from Harold Coble Report: For diversity index, identify four types of pest control strategies: prevention, avoidance, monitoring, suppression (PAMS), each of which may have a number of tactics. Can measure over time and identify when the system might get into trouble.
Group Discussion:
- In the Pre-FQPA era, there were 10 times the factors for
cumulative risk as a common mode of mechanism. Project
identification was the point over FQPA factors for the
organophosphates' cholinesterase mode of action. That's what
was responsible for FQPA factor. They set up committee.
For the cumulative risk the common mode of action is
cholinesterase action. Forty chemicals are analyzed at
this point. There are some really good data bases as
well as some really bad ones. Some pesticides were
cancelled because data was not in the data base for
some reason and we need to figure out how to put
the data in. Does the Act designate some level
of safety to shoot for or are we going to derive
that? What is the target? What is the endpoint?
If they de-register pesticides, can we make decisions
on one or all of the reviews? Endpoints are mixed
between toxicology and exposure. Even cumulative
exposure is breaking the envelope. We need an
assessment warning systems; and we need to deal
with the potential impacts of non-pesticidal
pest management practices.
- The market effects of different practices that
were adopted in tart cherries is an example. If
there is broad resistance to a practice, what would be
the ultimate effect? In a region-wide level we have
to have an idea of what all producers are doing.
IPM is important to get program administration to
look at trends.
- The dwarfing of apple trees is something else.
One third of orchards are using smaller trees. The
cultural technique is to calibrate the trees. We are
also dealing with new plantation densities. In New
York we still have a mix of trees, but there is also a
concern over old orchards that are refuges for pests.
We saw dwarfing of trees as a system that could lead to
less pesticide use. In the next ten years, vulnerability
in our system is going to be discovered. We have major
problems in the rootstock of the trees as well as
susceptibility to windstorms. Maybe cultural
practices are not such a big plus as previously seen.
In both this case and in corn/soybean rotations, the
people weren't stupid or unconcerned about it. They were
just not able to come up with risk assessment with
hindsight. What was unexpected was the thought that
the solution would last forever, but it had no feedback
mechanism. And climate change can change the whole model.
- After the Dutch Elm Disease hit, people were
planting honey locusts. The basic concept is "don't put
all your eggs in one basket," now the question is how to
monitor. We need mechanisms to say what is the hazard of
doing "xyz." Everybody is trying to put it all into the same
system. It is very hard to compare apples to soybean. There
is a rotation but not of same type. It is a conceptual
product.
- Think about assessment systems as factors, i.e.
resistance and cultural factors and how might we integrate
them to come up with a couple of solutions. I see the way
clear to get beyond pesticide use. However, we have to
stay away from sustainability.
- Should we clarify only risk assessment, or also
measurement systems which measure the degree of IPM?
How do we give scores to farmers as amount of IPM?
- We have to think about various tools we can adapt to take into
account different factors. We need to consider both evaluation
tools and policy evaluation tools for farmers. We must get more
precise about risk.
- Whatever pest management system you put out there - it
will fail.
- What we want out of this is not a system or any system. We
have to make ourselves think better about assessment systems, both
the potentials and the limitations.
- So the conclusion is that trying to figure out pesticide
exposure is only one part.
- We have to broaden our thinking to resistant factors as
well as cultural factors.
- Measuring sustainability is not only on a farm level, it
is also on a landscape level. Should we assess only risk or
the degree of IPM adoption? So should we do both risk assessment
and IPM? Ask the question: does farmer have rotations or not.
- We could combine a score system with the risk assessment
system.
- Regardless of resistance, the system has to be adjusted.
That is a given.
- IFM (Integrated Fruit Management): What is feedback system
there? What do you do to monitor and manage crops and adapt to the
need to segregate thinking?
- We measure success over the last years as the lower amount of
hazardous pesticides. We do not need organophosphates anymore in
apple production, only in emergencies. We reduced the amount of
pesticides by 2/3. We learned to control weeds just in June. We
have trees that direct their energies into producing fruit, not
more growth. There are no aphids. We actually have many parameters
to measure the system.
- Aphids will adapt and not need so much nitrogen to develop.
Is there something that shows that the biological system has
changed? Will control then be use of another cultivar?
- We were alerted by fruit drop. It requires much more
monitoring and continuous feedback.
- You can tell growers what to do. They must write it down
in their farm books and field books. We must show that tactics
can be listed on a point system, like a checklist. Monitoring is
in the center of system.
- Joe's demonstration project shows success in cooperation.
Feedback is voluntary.
- We have to have a driver. The EPA will make registration
decisions not to preserve environment as much as to maintain
their livelihood.
- Farmers must adopt practices before they sell their crops.
They must provide information at the farm level. And the registrant
needs to supply monitoring information.
- In some areas we can have a quasi-regulatory system, e.g.
prescription use of pesticides in California.
- Pheremone disruption is done in Germany and in Washington
state. On a state by state basis we need many more control
tactics.
- We have to think seriously about other techniques. We need
assessment tools to track resistance. How can we value or assign
weights to non-pesticidal factors?
- IPM programs in some crops are at a dead end, especially
with soybean and corn. We have to have to think about what to
bring into system now, such as alfalfa rotation, etc.
- Mono-cultural systems can develop difficult problems
depending on how widespread the practice is. It is not
the particular tactic that leads to development of resistance
but the amount and percentage of use. We need to know the
percent of acres under any given strategy. We want
measurements of the diversity of practices.
- There are a number of options in measuring intensity.
- It is not the number of alternatives but the intensity of
application. Intensity is related to efficacy. And it is not
how many possibilities there are but how many are practical.
- What about an equation which indicates species richness?
- We really don't want to get into a situation were diversity
is gone. We need a way to rank, measure or rate diversity.
- The whole deal is that we want to avoid resistance.
- If we are creating an indicator of intensity, that shows
us where to devote resources. But how many are good? Do we
need to have diversity?
- When insect populations start to increase, pheromones are
used to disrupt the mating system. When the number of
predators are going down, then you have a problem.
- Biological and non-chemical treatments are not sufficient
by themselves. They fail if the population is high, just
like in the case of the coddling moth. We have to monitor
the population. With a depressed population of coddling
moth, we put in confusion technique. Implementation was
successfully accomplished by farmers because they went
into other things, e.g. they started to monitor: green
(disruption), yellow (one application) and red (two
applications). We have to figure out the scale.
- We would have to translate that to millions of acres in
corn and soybean. We shouldn't be spraying without knowing
what is going on in the fields.
- The best information is simply that farmers do not
want to waste money. Are we coming close to what kind
of factors to put into a formula to measure resistance
potential?
- Efficacy factors, ecology richness, production costs,
diversity.
- There is a possibility of outbreaks of secondary pests.
We need diversity of different practices.
- IPM is fundamentally resistance management. We try to
reduce environmental risk while maintaining profitability.
- Practice x reduces pest population by y. It is
multiplicative or additive if we are assuming a linear
response. The question of how many x's do you have.
- If we deal with a disrupter and another chemical, it
would be codependent.
- I would do it by issue or pest crop and pest. Or it
would be pest by pest and crop by crop. N equals different
strategies. They must be applied to the region as well as
to individual score.
- For the success of IPM, doesn't it need to be a
regional approach?
- That depends on how unique the area is. The reason
that there are lots of problems is the lack of buy-in from
farmers.
- We have to design a measure to illustrate high diversity.
High diversity represents a system that is more resistant to
outbreaks.
- In terms of resistance models: They ought to be able to
say that if they score "x" number it will take "x" number of
years before resistance shows up.
- But it is not only a problem of resistance. From the
farmers' perspective, we have to ask what they can grow
and how is the market? Ask what pest problems do we have
now, and can we come in with another crop? From the farmers'
side, it becomes much more complicated. It depends on the
market situation before it becomes a valid solution.
- We have to make sure the efficacy of the practice is
good in and of itself as well as good for society. It is a
mix of population biology and social transfer payments.
- The way I see we need to figure out how to use a
diversity index to communicate how badly needed region-wide
diversification of pest management is.
- We have to go to legislators. We need greater
investment of resources, a toolkit. We can show that more
diversity leads to fewer ecological problems.
- What can we use to impact payment programs? Can we
use existing cost-share programs and make them more
attractive?
- EQIP has buffers built into the cost-share program.
- One of problems with Mike's system is using it forever.
Every year they used it, they thought the problems would
diminish. If you use the same tactics every year
(corn/soybean rotation) the program will fail. It
is a matter of intensity and duration.
- We could use a population dynamics model. We need
to account for use over so many years. It is probabilistic
if a random change occurs and results in more resistivity
because there is no pattern. It is a chaotic point of view.
It is going to take a modeler.
- Still there is the possibility for selection.
- There is a lot of variability in attenuation. We are
dealing with different numbers of genes involved. Also, it
is a communication job because farmers think that the silver
bullet will be there. We just know that the system will fail,
not particularly what has failed in the system. It takes
behavioral modifications by farmers and a different pattern
of tactics.
- We've got to eat something along the way.
- I don't understand the actual biology of the pest, but
entomologists do. Farmers understand attenuated resistance.
- Even with high diversity within field, if they use the same
practices year after year, resistance might develop. We'll need
spatial and temporal diversity as well as practices diversity.
We need preventative practices. Farmers are asking "what does
IPM really do for me?"
- We can develop measures such as a point system for
everything that can be related to IPM and establish moving
targets of what is minimal for IPM systems. This entails a
lot of things that aren't control practices.
- What has an effect in trying to come up with parameter of
resistance avoidance? The introduction of IPM pushed it. If we
talk about IPM as a system, it has to evolve all the time.
If we are looking for less hazardous chemicals we must
demand new products. The main issue is human health, not
the environment. Insect growth regulators are excellent
tools for IPM. We need alternative products or practices.
- For a lot of things, we do have a fast track, but we
are looking for alternatives (such as soil pathogens).
- Environmentally sound systems are less toxic and
the tools need to be stronger ones. We court disaster
if we kick all opportunities out.
- The Europeans show us that we can't throw
everything out.
- Is it true for annuals as well as perennials?
It is too cold for corn, i.e. corn for silage. There,
we have problems with herbicides, not insecticides.
Therefore, we have:
Diversity Index
- Sum of F:
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F= | FThreshold |
| i= | 1 |
where: F = the fraction of decrease of a pest within a regional
cropping (or management) system and i = a given 'resistance avoidance'
factor or pest control practice.
- temporal diversity
- spatial diversity
- practice diversity
Group 3. John Vickery - Moderator
Resistance Management/Pesticides/Cultural Practices
Project/Program Evaluation
Does the New Zealand apple scheme score pesticides for
resistance risk? No
Two tools:
- Estimate/measure pesticide environmental impact as an evaluation tool.
- Tools which help farmers reduce pesticide use as a management tool.
Question:
How frequently does one have to repeat a practice?
mode of action and how pesticides and other practices are used
- IPM Measurement Systems are more appropriate to manage resistance
problems which allow experts to blend all tactics.
- Measuring outcomes,
- Measuring practices,
- Can use resistance management as a separate analysis,
Resistance management is an agronomic problem
Environmental impact rating
Environmental risk
Resistance factors
Pesticide Decisions are based on:
- Effectiveness
- Cost
- Effects on predators and parasites
- Resistance management
Incentives for Innovation:
- Crisis - lose fewer possibilities for innovation
- Subsidies, taxes, regulation
Example:
University of Wisconsin Herbicide Resistance Tool: the tool ranks
herbicides as a decision tool.
Conclusion:
Most IPM evaluation systems currently use point systems, not
decision tools. We need tools which reduce the impacts of
pesticides and have a positive impact on IPM.
General Discussion:
- One needs to know the questions before choosing
specific endpoints. The goal of an indicator depends on
whether we are talking site specific or general.
- - Environmental Impact Assessments measure risk. We can't
forget that health risk depends on both exposure from and
toxicity of the pesticide. If the ranking is conducted only
on the basis of the pesticide itself, it could lead to a possible
ban of the pesticide even though it might not pose a risk to
humans in certain situations regardless if it is highly toxic.